


On this fourth episode of Through the Aftermath, the theme is the 1974 classic A Boy and His Dog. We also tackle a bit of news and email from you wonderful listeners.
News:
Main Topic: A Boy and His Dog
We read a bit of listener email, and talk more in-depth about what we
view as post-apocalyptic for the show. There's also a bit more
discussion on Mad Max and some great recommendations from listeners on
books and movies such as Dance of the Dead. Keep 'em coming! Also be sure to check out Doomorama's PA blog.
Keep in touch with us via the Facebook page, email or on Twitter.
Theme music is 'The Fourth Tribe' by Michael Gordon Shapiro. Used with permission.
'If 6 Was 9' by robg
Submitted on 2009-02-28 05:25:35 CST
I really enjoyed the short film 9 that the movie is based on. Shane Acker, the creator of the short, directed and co-wrote the script for the movie version. I don't think the movie will capture the same dark and creepy tone as the short. But I hope I'm wrong.
The 10 min. short film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE4qHy0RruA
'Blame!' by SaraPickell
Submitted on 2009-02-28 08:51:26 CST
I'm sure my friends will tell you I'm just being a broken record here, but have you guys ever checked out the manga Blame! by Tsutomu Nihei? It's an interesting perspective if you're looking for very different kinds of disasters, instead of just nuclear ones.
'Quintet' by Pufnstuf
Submitted on 2009-03-01 15:48:20 CST
Ok-- found an obscure liltte movie called Quintet with Paul Newman. very odd in a nuclear winter where everyone plays this game called Quintet. Really odd...
'Wall.E' by CindyL
Submitted on 2009-03-03 16:09:01 CST
Great movie, very sweet and cute but I was also surprised with how far they went with the portrayal of humans. Jonathan you have to watch it now! If you haven't already :)
'PnP & early PC aftermath games' by Sanjuro
Submitted on 2009-03-03 19:06:45 CST
Another great show guys.
Im making a listener request this time guys. Would you consider doing a show or a segment of a show about some of the paper and pencil RPGs and early PC games that predated and inspired today's generation of 'aftermath' games?
Im thinking TSR's GammaWorld, Steve Jackson's CarWars, GDW's Twilight 2000, etc.
Looking forward to the next show. Ill have to rewatch A Boy and His Dog - been a long time since Ive seen it.
Cheers,
Sanjuro
'Gamma world' by Pufnstuf
Submitted on 2009-03-04 16:16:48 CST
Wow I forgot about Gamma World. I did have that for a bit, but ended up preferring DnD since I found the world of Gammaworld too depressing (blame it on Threads).
'Talking about dark and depressing ... ' by Sanjuro
Submitted on 2009-03-04 20:26:28 CST
An on-going conversation in my guild's vent is on what gives certain MMOs longevity, and in particular why it is WAR has been hemorrhaging players. One thing we always come back to is that while it may sound appealing to have a dark, dreary, gritty and grimy world "" in actual fact, if you must spend hour upon hour in that world, the appeal quickly wears thin.
Id like to hear the Aftermath guys' opinion on the long term viability of post-apoc. MMOs given that that "˜world' is bound to be dreary and depressing. Sure, folks will play a Fallout game for several months, but would they really inhabit a Fallout MMO for years?
Is a post-apoc world the kind of escapism that many MMOers want "" or is it destined to be a very niche market? Is long term success more likely with a hopeful post-apoc world with splashes of color and life (like Earthrise); or can a "˜real' post-apoc wasteland world (as with Fallen Earth) be viable?
- Sanjuro
'Escapism' by Pufnstuf
Submitted on 2009-03-04 20:48:51 CST
Funny you say that Sanjuro. I was thinking about my preferences. I do not mind 'visiting' a bad area in a MMO (like Angmar in LOTRO), but I need a pristine pretty area too (like the Shire) or I get very very sad.
If they have pockets of utopia/dystopia with destruction (like return to planet of the apes with the forbidden zone, but ape town is pretty).
I struggled in Tabula Rasa because I felt like there was no escape from the war...
'Should I get Fallout 3' by Shalimar616
Submitted on 2009-03-05 12:18:41 CST
I know this is a tired thread, but I am just wondering if Fallout 3 would suit my play style? One thing I really did not like with Oblivion was how things scaled to your level ... is that still around?
I also didn't like how mobs would follow you to the ends of the earth -- they just never relented. How is that handled?
I am sure most of this has already been discussed, but I must have missed it.
Thanks again!
Troy
'Threads' by animagnum
Submitted on 2009-03-05 20:20:05 CST
Thank you for reading my e-mail! You've mentioned Threads a few times and I finally got around to watching the movie. Oh my god. Probably the most depressing film I have ever viewed, but it was outstanding.
-Rory
'\o/ looking for more PA themed books' by FarSpace
Submitted on 2009-03-06 17:30:05 CST
I was wondering if anyone could give me some suggestions for PA themed books to read.
I was trying to look for them in my library but nothing really comes up for Post Apocalyptic in the computer base search because most of those books don't have that in that actual title I guess. I found a few but I read those already and looking for more.
So I need the actual names of some books and then maybe from there I could find more books from the writers and that. Thanks.
'On Gamma World, PnP PA games, PA fiction series' by DamianoV
Submitted on 2009-03-10 19:57:24 CST
Big PA fan here... some of my earliest Internet ramblings/arguments were over Gamma World alternate rules and settings, heh.
Some random comments...
Gamma World: which version(s) you want to discuss? I'm downloading a copy of the latest attempt by White Wolf as I type... I've got boxed editions of all the others, altho a few lost their covers along the way (lousy stapled bindings).
My personal favorite is still the original version, btw, altho nearly all the versions had something or another that I found intriguing, when you get right down to it...
PnP PA Games:
Any old fogies like me out there that braved Aftermath (by Fantasy Games Unlimited)? I never found anyone that lasted more than 2 play sessions, heh, but it was some nice source material.
Anyone know the name of a more recent indie PA RPG title (I don't think it was a d20 license), Muta-something I think, saw it on the shelves for a couple years but never picked it up, kicking myself now, of course.
PA fiction:
Anyone familiar with the Pelbar Series, by Paul O. Anderson (if recall correctly)? Loved that series, a nice vision of a PA world that wasn't too dark but still had the fallen civilization background.
The Hiero books were another couple of books that were decent PA fiction, tho it got a little heavy on the psychic powers for my personal taste before it was over. Some nice source material/concepts in those books, tho.
'On Gamma World, PnP PA games, PA fiction series' by DamianoV
Submitted on 2009-03-10 20:57:44 CST
Big PA fan here... some of my earliest Internet ramblings/arguments were over Gamma World alternate rules and settings, heh.
Some random comments...
Gamma World: which version(s) you want to discuss? I'm downloading a copy of the latest attempt by White Wolf as I type... I've got boxed editions of all the others, altho a few lost their covers along the way (lousy stapled bindings).
My personal favorite is still the original version, btw, altho nearly all the versions had something or another that I found intriguing, when you get right down to it...
PnP PA Games:
Any old fogies like me out there that braved Aftermath (by Fantasy Games Unlimited)? I never found anyone that lasted more than 2 play sessions, heh, but it was some nice source material.
Anyone know the name of a more recent indie PA RPG title (I don't think it was a d20 license), Muta-something I think, saw it on the shelves for a couple years but never picked it up, kicking myself now, of course.
PA fiction:
Anyone familiar with the Pelbar Series, by Paul O. Anderson (if recall correctly)? Loved that series, a nice vision of a PA world that wasn't too dark but still had the fallen civilization background.
The Hiero books were another couple of books that were decent PA fiction, tho it got a little heavy on the psychic powers for my personal taste before it was over. Some nice source material/concepts in those books, tho.
'\o/' by FarSpace
Submitted on 2009-03-15 00:50:35 CST
@ DamianoV thanks for the info and suggestions :)