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No Prisoners, No Mercy
Host: Julie Whitefeather & Frances Kosac
There comes a time, friends, when your favorite MMO ceases to sparkle, when even new videogames lose their luster, and the computer room becomes a prison; and all that is left are two gamers (who happen to be nuns) with a very large axe to grind. Come join Julie Whitefeather and Frances Kosac as they go to War - and along the way discuss the events of the week in the MMO industry.

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No Prisoners, No Mercy - Show 24
Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:46:00 GMT [download/play]



Welcome to show 24 - be warned this show has an explicit rating.
 
This week we discuss whether or not the behavior of people behind the scenes affect how you feel about their work. In "short shorts" we discuss batleths, bombs and more. In this 2 hour long show of gaming goodness we discuss your answers to where has the Warhammer love gone (that and 450,000 customers). Of course no show would be complete without heating up things a bit with another red hot episode of "flame proof undies."
 
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Episode 24 Discussion Thread

'Great show and interview' by Saylah
Submitted on 2009-02-20 02:03:26 CST
I'm still surprised, that in this day and age, there are gamers who still think gaming is supposed to be work - push through it. It sounds so head-up-butt to suggest that people fight their way to the fun part of a game they are paying to play, when there are other options. We don't expect this behavior in other forms of entertainment. We have TIVO, on-demand and video records so that we don't have to "earn" our way to watching the shows via commercials. When you sit down to play a board game to you make yourself play some card game you don't like first?? That whole mentality of suffering for fun - this ain't art you know, needs to just die already. Or game-makers/developers can continue down that path and be happy with niche market numbers of subscribers.

His description of PQs and T4 were dead on and why I unsubscribed. It flat out wasn't fun doing Stage I over and over, while praying for RVR and doing scenarios. And when there was RVR which was fun, the lag, CTDs and other anomalies took large bites out of the enjoyment.

Taken in pieces, WAR was fun 15 to 30 minutes at a time but couldn't deliver, for me at least, on sustained fun. It's a shame really. They have the pieces that suit a casual player but somehow all combined it doesn't work as well as other choices currently available. I found two great classes and loved T1 to T2. I liked PQs. I enjoyed Scenarios. Yet somehow it wasn't enough and I'm not someone who went to WOW either. At the time I decided I'd have nothing - no fantasy MMO rather than staying subscribed to WAR.



'@ Saylah of WAR...' by rocknerd
Submitted on 2009-02-20 03:51:45 CST
didnt listen to the episode but i had to comment on your comment Say...
i agree TOTALLY! i play LotRO because for me its fun RIGHT NOW. not the "end game" or not "just the first 10 levels"... of course im sure you have a different opinion but the ethos is the same. have fun now, there should be NO work involved.

i think the problem with WAR is the ideas are revolutionary, but they are spread too thin. you need players at the right place right time to do PQs and to do RvR. and whats left if your running solo? i have not been able to get a character past lv 16. why? because im a solo player and i cant keep playing PQs over and over to get decent items. thats all i did EVERY chapter. now im sure there are WAR fans out there that might want to call me a dipshit and i half agree with you, but this game should cater to all of us not just those of you who wants to play PvP.

but i will say this, the best gamer for this game is someone who wants to play both PvP and PvE equally as much and i think that ratio of player is VERY low, therein lies the sacrifice of the games development. usually the gaming community is made of of extremes so i think that ultimately hurts WAR...

just my opinion though, and an ego is only worth the time it takes to realize it only matters to you.



'Ladies, please get real!' by Sanjuro
Submitted on 2009-02-20 16:40:54 CST
You know what I find astounding? I find it astounding that people feel the right to be outraged when some celebrity is caught on film/tape behaving in a way they disapprove of. Ladies I like your show, but on this point you are really talking out of your collective you-know-whats.

Lets review some things. First, what you played isnt quite the best (or complete) version of the 'rant' - most importantly you cant hear (on your version) the voice of the DP - who, when you hear it on a good version, was not saying anything to either respond to Bale's anger or diffuse a situation the he (the DP) created. So, first I suggest going to this YouTube link, listen to the full clip, and listen for the DPs comments (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba0-ctqzRsg&feature=related).

Now its clear that Bale lost his temper, but he has just cause for being angry. Anyone who is familiar with film production will tell you that when you start shooting a scene, after all quiet has been called, "silence on the set", etc. EVERYONE is expected to stop moving, stop talking, stop EVERYTHING so the actors can focus and do what they are paid to do. The DP was moving about the set and messing with lights while the scene was being shot - and he did it several times, something a pro. DP should know damn well not to do! So the DP was at fault, and thus Bale lost his temper. And we dont know what the history of the set has been, maybe this DP had done other things to set Bale on edge.

All this is important to understand before listening to the tape. Especially if you listen carefully to the replies from the DP. Have you ever been angry, I mean really and rightly angry at someone, and have that person talk and behave as though they did nothing wrong ... well its rather frustrating and it does little to help the angry person calm down. Thats just the situation I think we have here. Bale is the movie - w/o Bale there is no Terminator film ... so the DP is very much lower on the totem pole here, and the DP was at fault - he would have done well to just shut up, apologize and not do it again.

And to finish just two more points. One, anyone remotely familiar with Hollywood can tell you that this 'rant' is not out of the ordinary. And two, anyone who has worked in high stress jobs can tell you that this sort of 'rant' happens when people F-up. And the DP F-up. But of course in 21st Century America, where no one wants to be held accountable for anything, and everyone carries this ridiculous chip around on their shoulder of "oh no you didnt talk to me like that" you just can never call anyone to task.

I dont give a rats behind if Bale is or isnt a nice guy, point is the DP screwed up and he was read the riot act. I say right on Mr. Bale, I for one am in your corner.

- Sanjuro "Mr. Old School was the good school"

Oh, and btw, its been said several times that later on the set Bale and the DP made up and continued to work together for a month.



'Once again... No mysogony here.' by Gurumba
Submitted on 2009-02-20 16:44:17 CST
Julie,
You once again made the mistake of stating that I had a mysogonistic attitude, which as I explained here previously, couldn't be further from the truth. Tell me, what words did I say that made you take that leap that I said anything about men vs. women? I didn't even say the words "MEN" or "WOMEN" or made any mention of sex. This has nothing to do with you two being women, or "E-peens", and I'm sorry you took that point of view, which was based on nothing. My e-mail was simply about misinformation - nothing more. I can understand you two may get this type of attitude in real life and in-game, and maybe that's why you are being over-sensitive about it here, and honestly that I can understand. But that's not what I said, so please don't put words in my mouth.

You make it seem as if I "flamed" you, but again it's not a flame (at least in my opinion) I was simply stating my viewpoint. If I wanted to stoop to that level and flame you, trust me you would know it (and no, that's not meant to egg you on). Nothing I've done I believe can be described as "flaming" in my opinion. To me, what's the purpose? It's the whole "arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics......." and it's honestly beneath me.

My e-mail is me saying that I understand what type of players you are, and that I'm completely fine with that. Trust me, I "get it" and consider myself a casual player as well, but someone who gets involved in the nitty gritty of the game at the same time. However, being casual players, why are you (and I mean Fran here) crying about nerfing rogues? I know she's backed off on this, and I'm not trying to keep pushing the subject; not at all. I mean if you don't get involved in that level of detail, that's fine, but don't then say "Oh this needs to get nerfed" or "Blizzard never balances anything" because then you are clearly talking about of your butt. I appreciate that she said (and I'm paraphrasing here) "Yep, you are right I have a casual attitude". It's like not being a librarian, and looking at a rocket and saying "that wasn't built right". HUH? Point is, if you don't have experience on a subject, kindly don't comment on it. Seems only fair.

About the WAR comment asking "Why can't we have female characters of X class". Keep in mind, just because they had 1 of these in the lore, doesn't mean we want 27,034,987,234 of them running around in the game. That, I can see might be "lore breaking".

While I understand you not reading my other e-mail, I'd appreciate your feedback on it either via e-mail or here. Do you feel I had valid counterpoints to your argument about getting grilled about gear/spec before being invited to a group?



'Excuse me... spelling! ' by Gurumba
Submitted on 2009-02-20 16:51:41 CST
Misogynistic and misogyny. Not sure what I was thinking.


'Ladies, please get real!' by Sanjuro
Submitted on 2009-02-20 17:01:13 CST
You know what I find astounding? I find it astounding that people feel the right to be outraged when some celebrity is caught on film/tape behaving in a way they disapprove of. Ladies I like your show, but on this point you are really talking out of your collective you-know-whats.

Lets review some things. First, what you played isnt quite the best (or complete) version of the 'rant' - most importantly you cant hear (on your version) the voice of the DP - who, when you hear it on a good version, was not saying anything to either respond to Bale's anger or diffuse a situation the he (the DP) created. So, first I suggest going to this YouTube link, listen to the full clip, and listen for the DPs comments (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba0-ctqzRsg&feature=related).

Now its clear that Bale lost his temper, but he has just cause for being angry. Anyone who is familiar with film production will tell you that when you start shooting a scene, after all quiet has been called, "silence on the set", etc. EVERYONE is expected to stop moving, stop talking, stop EVERYTHING so the actors can focus and do what they are paid to do. The DP was moving about the set and messing with lights while the scene was being shot - and he did it several times, something a pro. DP should know damn well not to do! So the DP was at fault, and thus Bale lost his temper. And we dont know what the history of the set has been, maybe this DP had done other things to set Bale on edge.

All this is important to understand before listening to the tape. Especially if you listen carefully to the replies from the DP. Have you ever been angry, I mean really and rightly angry at someone, and have that person talk and behave as though they did nothing wrong ... well its rather frustrating and it does little to help the angry person calm down. Thats just the situation I think we have here. Bale is the movie - w/o Bale there is no Terminator film ... so the DP is very much lower on the totem pole here, and the DP was at fault - he would have done well to just shut up, apologize and not do it again.

And to finish just two more points. One, anyone remotely familiar with Hollywood can tell you that this 'rant' is not out of the ordinary. And two, anyone who has worked in high stress jobs can tell you that this sort of 'rant' happens when people F-up. And the DP F-up. But of course in 21st Century America, where no one wants to be held accountable for anything, and everyone carries this ridiculous chip around on their shoulder of "oh no you didnt talk to me like that" you just can never call anyone to task.

I dont give a rats behind if Bale is or isnt a nice guy, point is the DP screwed up and he was read the riot act. I say right on Mr. Bale, I for one am in your corner.

- Sanjuro "Mr. Old School was the good school"

Oh, and btw, its been said several times that later on the set Bale and the DP made up and continued to work together for a month.



'Double post ... sorry!?' by Sanjuro
Submitted on 2009-02-20 17:02:53 CST
Sorry I double posted that ... dont know how that happened.


'Baleful' by Celestian
Submitted on 2009-02-20 17:07:27 CST
@grumba: no one cares.

@Celebrities: Personally as long as they don't abuse children or kill someone I really don't care what they do. Their lifestyle is nothing like mine. They almost always have a huge ego. I wouldn't doubt that said actor that lost his top was channeling someone. Some of those actors take their roles very seriously it seems.

@Mythic: Official forums, hah. MJ is probably sick. Mythic lost me after I kept waiting for them to "fix" the Archmage. We've been giving them feedback on this practically broken class since beta and have been ignored ever since. We didn't want a lame copy/paste of the shaman. The only spec useful for a AM is Isha (healing) anything else is a waste no matter how you're geared. The AM mechanic is a waste. The AM survivability is the worst of any class.

End game content in WAR is boring. After you've taken the same keeps 50 times and ran the same scenarios 100s of times what else are you going to do. The tradeskills are terrible and require you to grind PVE to get materials because you get 1/10th of the materials in RVR.

The dungeons are just uninspired and dull (like the Archmage class) and to lock you out for 3 days was just... stupid. Specially since you can run them and not get a single drop for any class in your group. Why they didn't use the "repair" loot drops or tokens at the very least is beyond me.

Listen to Massively's Podcast where he discusses developers 2009 resolutions. You'll see exactly where the Mythic dev's thoughts are, not in WARHAMMER.



'Marketing and MMOs' by mikejl
Submitted on 2009-02-20 17:49:16 CST
If Mythic is guilty of not giving what the players want.. then they will need to share a cell with Blizard, SoE, Funcom (and the list goes on and on).

I guess I'm a simple MMORPG player. My problem is I like WAR, WoW, AoC and LOTRO too much. Just not enough money or time.

Mike



'@mikejl' by Gurumba
Submitted on 2009-02-20 17:52:10 CST
I think more importantly, Mythic is not giving players what they promised on the box... not to mention all the hype... and that's why I quit. RVR that was so laggy it was unplayable... and that's their bread and butter and it's not even done right? No thanks.


'On game skills paying off ...' by Sanjuro
Submitted on 2009-02-20 17:53:21 CST
I'm happy that some kid in the military was able to apply his hand-eye gaming skill and get a position for himself, but I find it rather depressing that this guy flunked out of HS. And I would much rather the military train this guy in something actually useful (like being a mechanic), because there's just not a lot of civilian job offerings for "Predator Drone Pilot."

By the way, if you want to read an excellent book that was the first to discuss computer game skills impacting the military etc. Check out Col. Dave Grossman's 'On Killing.' Its a must read for anyone interested in military stuff (and games too).

http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-Society/dp/0316330116



'@Rocknerd' by Gurumba
Submitted on 2009-02-20 17:56:36 CST
Totally agree. Lot of novel ideas, but not thoroughly thought out, and worse...poorly implemented. PQs were ghosttowns when I was playing in Sept. and Oct. I can just imagine what they are now. Now it seems the focus has been to push out new content, but I don't know about you guys, but I can't re-sub if I'm still hearing grumblings of shit being broken since launch... teleporting players? What the hell?!


'Liar, liar, world on fire.' by Seritaph
Submitted on 2009-02-20 18:25:13 CST
Nice episode. Full of vim and vigor!

Christian Bale. How unprofessional. He really came off as an immature, self-righteous baby. This would be unacceptable behavior in most any job. I don't know why anyone in Hollywood would put up with it. In a way, I feel sorry for him. He sounds like a ticking time bomb. A heart attack waiting to happen.

(And I agree, Fran, he is the best Batman).

I had a funny thought about the loss of Mythic subscriptions: maybe the people who left are all fed-up women? I'm still rooting for Mythic, and I hope they get things sorted out.

@ Saylah

I agree that gaming isn't supposed to be work, especially to the point of just dumping it out of frustration (which is what I essentially with W.A.R.). But I also like challenges too. I don't want a game so easy that I can set my cat on the keyboard, walk away, and have 10 quests completed and 3 levels gained. That's not fun either. I see both sides of this issue, and I think the answer lies in the middle somewhere.



'Perception?' by mikejl
Submitted on 2009-02-20 18:30:55 CST
@Gurumba - I understand the frustration .. and I agree if a game is "the suck" for you then drop it. However, to put a blanket statement that a company did not deliver what they promised if bad logic.

I think its fair to say they did not deliver on your expectations as mine seem fulfilled. I play RvR, PQ and PvE and having fun. And I do recall reading those features on the box.









'Alright... what about this.' by Gurumba
Submitted on 2009-02-20 18:39:30 CST
What's not perception, but fact:

1. When I played, anytime there was a large number of players in an area, say a keep for example, the frame rate would plummet, making the game unplayable. I have a machine that is well over the recommended hardware.

2. Public Quests - Not very "public" if I'm the only one doing it.

3. PVE - Ran out of content after doing every quest through T1-T4 and I was in my early 30's.

I'd say they didn't deliver, and with what I've shown above, I don't see how anyone could claim otherwise. Maybe you started after I did, and maybe they've fixed some of these issues, but I had already quit. It would take a lot for me to re-sub at this point with such a bad taste in my mouth about WAR.



'can only agree' by mikejl
Submitted on 2009-02-20 18:49:09 CST
Can only agree Gurumba. WAR did not meet your expectations on those items. And I expect any player who is not happy to depart the game and I hope whatever game they end up at fulfills their expectations.

.. my counter point:
I had lots of issues with AoC and quit. However, I 'm not going to tell others who still play AoC the game is broken for them. Just does not make sense.




'nice' by Token
Submitted on 2009-02-20 19:29:58 CST
Seriously funny show, I can't remember what but I was definitely laughing my arse off at something last night. It's amazing how many people still don't understand. I'm interested in knowing a bit more about the Nun lifestyle, is it common for Nuns to have online lives. Back when Diablo came out I was about 15 and my Mother attempted to bin the game because it had the devil on the box, surely there must have been some rumblings about involving yourself with this kind of media. I have no idea what I'm talking about please enlighten me.


'Shake-a Yer Money Make-a' by Seritaph
Submitted on 2009-02-20 19:45:53 CST
Ceadric is right. Thar's money to be made in dem dere hills. And not just high-level zones either. If you're new to World of Warcraft, or at any level, you can make money using the gathering professions and the Auction House. Even Copper Ore, which is the first thing you learn to gather in mining, sells pretty well when put up for auction. Herbalism and Skinning produce good results as well.

If I were to make a suggestion, I would take 2 gathering professions: mining and herbalism. Gather up what you can, and sell in stacks of 20 for whatever the going rate is at the time. Beware that the market can be fickle, but don't let that discourage you. I've had things not sell and bounce back into my mailbox. I put it up for sale again and it sells.

For those of you who want help with pricing there's a plug-in called Auctioneer, which reads and records the auction house listing and keeps track of pricing averages, highs and lows. I personally don't use plug-ins of any type due to the fact you have to constantly keep them updated, but other people swear by this one.

Fishing is a good secondary skill that can help you make money too. Because it is a secondary skill, you don't need to give up a primary gathering skill to take it. Some alchemy recipes require certain fish like Firefin Snapper or Oily Blackmouth. These seem to be consistently in demand as sell pretty well in the Auction House. The great thing is, these can be found in schools on the coast of most zones that have a coastline.

If you really want to be adventuresome, go to the Barrens and fish up some Deviate fish in just about any lake or pond (the Wailing Caverns water bodies have it too). Deviate fish are used in a cooking recipe called Deviate Delight, which when eaten will morph you into either a human pirate or ninja. Even eaten raw it produces strange effects, but the point is, they sell well. If you can obtain the recipe and make the dish, that sells even better. The recipe has a chance to fall of any mob in the Barrens.

You can also fish up chests containing all sorts of goodies. Perhaps a green item, bolts of fabric, pieces of leather, most of which you can collect and turn around and sell.

Fishing will also level up cooking quickly. Most fishing or cooking trainers have a vendor nearby that sells a recipe to cook the fish you are catching. Most cooked fish lack any special stat bonuses when eaten (though some do), but it does level your cooking skill quickly so you can get recipes that will give stat bonuses. Cooked fish (and other meats) are great for feeding to hunter pets as well.

Wow, too much information Seri. Okay one last thing to this T4 impassible wall of text. Always have a buyout price on your action. Most people shopping on the auction house want their stuff immediately. They will even pay a little more to get it...immediately.

There's my addendum to Ceadric's advice.











'addendum to Ceadric's advice.' by Ceadrick
Submitted on 2009-02-20 20:01:48 CST
Seritaph those are great tips! Two gathering skills if you are just starting out is the way to go. I dropped blacksmithing at 373 and went to jewelcrafting when I was level 70. A guy in the guild I was in said he made tons of money. Blacksmithing is just a gold sink and I never made a copper. Once you hit 70 or 80 taking jewelcrafting it's a good money maker. My son took engineering, its a money sink. But he has dear old day to hit up when he's broke. The bike is really cool, but not worth 15k gold. Great show!



'Sorry for the mispelling' by Seritaph
Submitted on 2009-02-20 20:08:58 CST
The sisters pronounced it wrong, and I misspelled your name in my post. My apologies Ceadrick.


'All that gold, what's it for?' by Seritaph
Submitted on 2009-02-20 20:51:16 CST
I should also explain why a person would want to give up a crafting profession for two gathering professions to make money. It's not just to be a Scrooge Mc. Duck and swim around in a room piled with gold.

Sounds fun though, doesn't it?

No, things in WoW are expensive. Sure there are some advantages to crafting your own armor, or making potions, jewelry, etc. But as Ceadrick said, most if not all crafting professions are a money sink and you'll find yourself short on money to buy mounts, spells, respecing your talents, and things you might need from other players.

Crafting is fun, but riding around in Outlands on your level 30 mount because you didn't have the 560 gold needed for the next upgrade is not.



'Show 25...' by Julie
Submitted on 2009-02-20 23:55:55 CST
So here is your chance to sound off about one of the main topics of discussion for show 25. As usual, once the last show is done I start working on the next.

In show 25 we will be talking (amongst other things) about where the future of video gaming really is headed.

Now I am not talking about the 800 pount sometimes 2 ton Blizzard gorilla here and who may or may not beat the Activision/Blizzard into the dirt - that doesn't even enter in to it. I am talking about video gaming as a whole?

We have seen layoffs mounting in an industry that as late as last month news agencies like Reuters where discribing as "recession proof". So now that the pressure is on where will video gaming be headed?

Some POSSIBLE (yes I said possible I am not limiting anything so don't get miffed anyone) areas of discussion are:

1.) single player vs. multiplayer vs. Massively Multiplayer
2. Free to play vs. Subscrition

and even the type of game such as a game (whether single player or mmo) that is linear vs. one that is "Open ended".

What do you think?



'Futur' by Carmedil
Submitted on 2009-02-23 16:58:19 CST
I fear a saturation / polarization of the MMO market with many games failing. Even some niche games since there can be so many niche games at a time.

The cost of making a triple A grade MMORPG is astounding. It's a risky business to invest in so money might become hard to find for the next game projects.

Worst yet WoW takes up to much space and other games will find it even harder and harder as time goes by. With expectations so high, no game will ever come up and be as developed as WoW (exception Blizzard's secret #2 MMO). Mark Jacobs always said it was a marathon, but most players aren't patient and either jump to another game or back to the comfortable WoW.

Also people go where there friends are playing and where it's hip to play.

Maybe the future lies in developing countries where for a few years a golden age for game publishers might arise where cheaper specialized labour with experienced management and technology from developed countries can put out a higher developed (in the debugging, content included, optimization, implemented features, etc.) game with the same money.

Is the answer an existing great Asian game that arrives and shakes things up?

Higher subscription fees to allow more pre and post launch development? Not in the near future. No wonder companies are looking to the SUB AND RMT model. Many companies need more income to better their games.

Most likely the only hot new game will come from Blizzard.

I guess a lot about the market will be unveiled with the battle of the superheroes (City of Heroes vs. DC Univers Online vs. Champions Online). Will the same player base be divided or will new sidekicks rise to become superheroes? Who will survive after 1 or 2 years? What will their $ model be like and how popular? I can't remember which but reading the FAQ about one the upcoming games it was clear that many standard CoH features where going to be missing at launch.

How will the consol gamers influence the market? Many games are looking for to be cross platform.

I just hope the industry isn't going to finish like VHS (WoW) versus Beta (rest of MMOs).



'The future is now.' by Seritaph
Submitted on 2009-02-23 18:14:25 CST
Time to break out the crystal ball, eh? Okay, here's what I think:

1) Console games will continue to sell well. This goes back to accessibility model I mentioned earlier referring to Blizzard's success. People know when they purchase a game for the Xbox 360, Wii or PS3 it will work with the hardware. Even though games are (relatively speaking) more expensive, there's a lot of entertainment for the price. Games like Fallout 3, Mass Effect, and even Grand Theft Auto offer quite a bit of entertainment for the dollar. More so than traditional forms of entertainment like eating out, going to movies, bowling, etc.

2) MMOs and Digital distribution will keep PC gaming alive and well. As the popularity of console gaming grows, there is less and less shelf space dedicated to PC gaming (unless you are a proven/guarenteed smash hit or value software). Publishers see this and change their focus to console gaming (where the retail money is). What will keep PC gaming going are genres like MMO's and Real Time Strategy games (which have control schemes too complex to successfully convert to console gaming) and digital distribution like Valve Software's Steam service. For the past 10 years forecasters have been predicting the demise of PC gaming, and I'll admit at times it appeared they could have been right. But then companies like Turbine, Stardock, Valve and Blizzard prove them wrong time and time again.

3) Accessibility is key. Why do games like Bejeweled, The Sims and WoW continue to top the gaming charts? They're fun, addicting, but most of all... everyone can play them. Companies who will be successful in this market and economy will ignore tech trends and focus on a large player-base install. MMOs will have to take heed to this as well if they don't want to become niche. Some already have. Games like ToonTown, FreeRealms and all those cutesy little anime inspired games like Fly for Fun and Rose Online will see continued success because they have a wide audience appeal and low system requirements.

I don't really think number of players or subscription model are the focus here. The free to play with RMTs are successful, and so are the subscription based options. You can purchase nearly every type of gaming card at the same place you buy your iTunes cards (one only need to peruse Target or WalMart). People can find equal enjoyment in single player, multiplayer or massively multiplayer games. These aren't the financial deal breakers for video gaming.

The layoffs are unfortunate, but they aren't discriminating to the video game industry only. It's more a reflection of the difficult financial times we all currently face.

The crystal ball has now gone foggy.



'@ Seritaph ' by FarSpace
Submitted on 2009-02-24 06:44:46 CST
I liked your crystal ball thoughts especially #2, & the general positive outlook with some good insight into it, cool, do more soon :)


'Episode 24' by Valary
Submitted on 2009-02-24 15:13:35 CST
I suppose I am a bit late but nonetheless:

First off, Christian Bale. While certainly an overreaction and not the way to handle a situation, heaven forbid any of us were to be judged on any one action or reaction to a situation. Putting myself in the situation where someone was interfering with my work that requires me to concentrate, I'm sure I'd be frustrated too. Secondly, listening to your clip of his rant I thought to myself. . "Didn't realize his American accent wasn't his real accent!" His accent is definitely there, however not as pronounced.

Mainly what I wanted to comment about was the hardcore vs. casual attitude. I myself have played in both mindsets in WOW and WAR. If you deem yourselves as casuals and have conversations about the mechanics of Worldcraft that are actually incorrect, you can't expect anything from your audience but a correction. If your defense is that you are "casual" then don't talk about mechanics and class balance! Or, at least learn to take a correction here and there from your listeners. I have also found myself at time wishing you had a third co-host or someone who is more interested in how the game *works* when the topics do edge towards game mechanics. Steer clear of the topic or expect corrections! I hope even if you view such responses as "flaming" that you can take something constructive from it.

Valary



'Guest for Show 25' by Julie
Submitted on 2009-02-24 17:06:41 CST
Now that show 24.1 is "in the can" as they say we are working on Show 25. The guest for the next show will be Mr. R.H. Harper, Senior Producer for the video game developer Gorilla System Corporation. If you have any questions you want to ask Mr. Harper either post them here, send them to "noprisonersnomercy@gmail.com" or post them to our google group - we will see that they get asked.

We will be discussing where the video game industry is at now and where it is going with Mr. Harper.

Julie



'Crystal Ball' by Julie
Submitted on 2009-02-24 17:09:11 CST
@ Seritaph and Carmedil -

Great comments, thanks. We will make sure that we go over the points made on the show.

Julie



'LOTRO' by Pufnstuf
Submitted on 2009-02-26 16:18:18 CST
Is your friend in Austraila okay? You have not mentioned it in a bit and I was worried.

Nice EVE segment though I do not play my brother plays and it is nice to hear about it.

I am looking forward if your friend is okay to hear the LOTRO segment. I actually (GASP) started an alt there (though on another server since I cannot deal with mailing things to myself).

Keep up the fun!



'Still haven't heard' by Julie
Submitted on 2009-02-26 17:09:51 CST
One of my friends in Australia had to pack up and leave for a bit. Another I still haven't heard from. One of our listeners from Australia has offered to help out a Togger whom I understand has lost everything in the Victoria fires (I am not personally acquainted with them - there are 14,000 toggers).


So all I can do is wait and pray.

Julie