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No Prisoners, No Mercy
Host: Julie Whitefeather & Frances Kosac
There comes a time, friends, when your favorite MMO ceases to sparkle, when even new videogames lose their luster, and the computer room becomes a prison; and all that is left are two gamers (who happen to be nuns) with a very large axe to grind. Come join Julie Whitefeather and Frances Kosac as they go to War - and along the way discuss the events of the week in the MMO industry.

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No Prisoners, No Mercy - Show 18
Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:18:00 GMT [download/play]



Welcome to No Prisoners No Mercy Show 18!
 
Time for our Christmas show, and in thanks to those of you who were patiently waiting, here is our Christmas show.  This week our poo eating dog we  have nick named "The Stink Machine" (you will find out why) manages to sneak into the act. Merry Christmas to all of you from all of us!
 
1. The Phone Call
2. Mad as hell: Black Christmas
3. Pinball Wizard
4. Capped out or Crapped out
5. Al's used armor emporium
6. Feasting and Brawling
7. Going to hell in a video game
8. Hardcore no more?
 
Articles cited:
 
http://thegreenskin.com/2008/12/17/to-get-rank-40-is-but-a-dream/
http://relmstein.blogspot.com/2008/12/gearing-up-for-arena-season-5.html:

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/51594

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/Massively/~3/2pvPW5Yb5F4/

http://hallower1980.blogspot.com/2008/12/dantes-inferno-tread-carefully.html

http://tobolds.blogspot.com


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Episode 18 Discussion Thread

'Opening Skit...' by Jmo
Submitted on 2008-12-24 05:51:25 CST
Funniest thing I've heard in a LONG time. That was awesome, simply awesome!

Great show as always sisters.

Merry Christmas!



'Mailing list...' by Greeblee
Submitted on 2008-12-24 06:18:46 CST
So like here i was minding my own buisness, When I checked my email to find I was on the NPNM mailing list, and had recieved an email letting me know there was a new show posted.

I said to myself, "Woot Another show! after i had just listened to a great new one earlier today!..." Then I realized it was about the same show... It's almost as if the sisters don't think I check the Virginworlds website to see if they posted a new show EVERY day! It's like they don't know Their podcast is one my favorite podcasts. Geez...

Merry Christmas Sisters,

The Mighty Greeblee



'nice' by Token
Submitted on 2008-12-24 07:01:21 CST
I give this show 3 Bibles out of 3 for entertainment value.


'Merry Christmas' by Julie
Submitted on 2008-12-24 10:37:23 CST
@ Token...I'm am glad you are happier with us now that we are back to our usual format - and such a high rating as well!


@ Greeblee - a mailing list? Not my doing...I promise. The only thing I asked Fran to make sure you get was her recipe for stuffed peppers.

@ JMO - Merry Christmas to you as well. Thanks for the compliment and make sure you keep us all up to date about your new podcast project.



'Opening Skit' by Julie
Submitted on 2008-12-24 10:42:06 CST
"The Phone Call" was actually something we rewrote that we received in the mail. It's one of those things that seem to be making their way around the internet. Unforunately I was unable to find out who the original author was.

Julie



'Hilarious!!!' by Saylah
Submitted on 2008-12-24 15:31:55 CST
That was a great episode. I laughed so hard. It's nice to hear you good spirits considering. Have a great holiday.


'levels vs skill based systems' by FarSpace
Submitted on 2008-12-24 18:20:36 CST
Great show, it had some great points we can all learn from, for instance from what I can tell...

RPG mmo's with PvP as an add-on that you can do because there are no more missions to do any ways are fine being level based.

But mmo's that have PvP as the main aspect are best as being skill based.

SWG was great skill based and great PvP, and then after they made it level based you had to get all the way to L80 to PvP and then all everyone did was run in circles and they had to go crazy fixing PvP and still don't have it rite. Never will either.

EVE you can be useful at any time because of roles you can do. And there are many goals to work for and things to do to help win at PvP.

There are many more examples.

CoH/V made PvP as an after thought and it is not bad but we all know they have worked really hard and it is not realm versus realm.

Even in Guild wars they had to just for get the leveling for PvP and put you strait to level 20 when you decide to make a PvP only character.

And one more thing about Warhammer, you got all the tiers right? But people naturally slide right past them because of levels not allowing people to playing them. And so you get the empty tier effect for the players behind you.

Unless they scrap the levels then I predict for Warhammer in 2009 that the game will consist of a long boring ride to Level 40 everyone bring 40 with just a few brave stragglers of lower levels playing useless catch up.

I also advise the Guild Wars 2 be a skill based system too, why not? It is past level 20 in GW 1 anyways.

In fact I agree with the person who said something like D&D messed up mmo of today because of the level based system, it should have been skill based from the beginning imo.

Levels mess things up in mmo multi player gaming imo, what is wrong with having just skill allocation and good story, and just keeping the same hit points and stuff like that so everyone can play and use real skill by know how to use their skills they have and the environment around them?



'Well...' by Julie
Submitted on 2008-12-24 18:54:16 CST
@ Farspace: If you are referring to the "level 40 is but a dream" discussion...

"Levels mess things up in mmo multi player gaming imo, what is wrong with having just skill allocation and good story, and just keeping the same hit points and stuff like that so everyone can play and use real skill by know how to use their skills they have and the environment around them?" - Farspace

In fact Ultima Online (UO) has already been doing this for some time and originally it was all pvp. This might indeed be a solution to what ails Warhammer. I doubt it will ever be tried by Mythic but I would like to see it.


@ Saylah: thanks for the compliment and your earlier email. This has been a tough time in our lives. Right now its sort of ups and downs.

Julie




'i'm putting in a pool' by Token
Submitted on 2008-12-25 15:41:59 CST
FarSpace is tearing Warhammer apart in that last post! What happened to the FarSpace that lives in rainbow land.


'Hi Token o/ :)' by FarSpace
Submitted on 2008-12-25 20:49:25 CST
ah-ha-ha, I know Token :), what can I say. I useualy wait for a while to play mmo's and I'm not going to play Warhammer because anyone coming in late is going to have problems from everything I'm reading and hearing.


'WAR - Usually situation' by Saylah
Submitted on 2008-12-26 17:56:24 CST
I jumped on over today and the classes were as much fun as I remembered. The scenarios were too. However, once I was out in the world trying to do the Chapter content for Influence it was the same old story - me against the world, and no one else to be found.

I did notice something new on the map. The content was marked as "normal (6 to 9 players). That's new. I wonder if they are trying to implement scaling on the PQs as a solution. I hope so. After getting close to one reward done, I was bored with solo killing the same mobs over and over, so I logged off.

I said on a previous podcast of NPNM, that I was leveling in FEAR of being left beind by the little group I was playing with and that's exactly what happened. I didn't play for a few days, they moved on and I've been stuck soloing what can't be soloed ever since. It's really sad that WAR has two of the best classes I've ever played and some nice PVE content but simply not enough people to pull it off in large groups which is what makes WAR fun. *shrug*



'2008 failure' by Token
Submitted on 2008-12-26 22:43:12 CST
After a few hours of Warhammer beta I could see Mythic were up to their old tricks and canceled my pre-order. Mythic have never really been in sync with what the players need. Daoc was pretty good for the people that got involved heavily with the RvR community, but offered the casual gamer absolutely nothing. I ran a mile as soon as I got my EnB beta invite.


'Funny' by brogshan
Submitted on 2009-01-08 19:46:52 CST
I just got a listen of the Christmas show, the intro was hilarious.


'Thanks' by Julie
Submitted on 2009-01-08 21:27:57 CST
Thanks...It still makes me laugh when I listen to it. We would have had the New Years show out today but Fran wasn't feeling well when show time came around she wasn't feeling well so the show will be delayed a bit.