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Massively Speaking Podcast Episode 15
Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:00:00 EST [download/play]



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Massively Speaking Episode 15 closes out our discussion of E3 with banter between Shawn Schuster, WoW Insider's Mike Schramm, and Michael Zenke. Join us as we chat about our E3 favorites, the latest from Warhammer Online, the KotORO announcement, and lots of little bits of Lich King. Make sure to enjoy this one, as we're off next week to recover from E3. We'll be back ready and raring to go in early August. Stay tuned!

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Episode 15 Discussion Thread

'Warhammer Online' by Celestian
Submitted on 2008-07-25 16:45:56 CST
People who are saying that they are no longer interested in WAR because 4 classes and 4 end game zones are delayed should just wait till those things are in the game to play if they are so inclined.

As to if this will hurt them at release? Well WoW cut hero classes and siege warfare before it was released and only had some 9 or so classes (many of which had large problems) to start and no end game zones (or PVP purpose) to mention.... how did that hurt them customer wise eh?



'Peter Molyneaux' by SaraPickell
Submitted on 2008-07-26 02:56:18 CST
When you guys were going over Peter's comments on wanting to get into MMOs, I mostly agreed with Mike. What I would say, though, is that in a lot of cases it isn't so much developers "wanting a piece of that jack". Really, for the most part the challenge of creating a living world to be experienced simultaneously by thousands of gamers is... well lets just say it gets the mind working. Especially for people who are more toy, simulation and new medium oriented.


'about WAR' by FarSpace
Submitted on 2008-07-27 02:52:00 CST
At least they do not want to lie like AoC.

The 1st thing I thought was these guys are honest, that is better thenbeing lied to, because everyone knows MMO's today can never be 5 years old the 1st day they come out.

At the very least I want honesty and then I know what to expect and then I can respect WAR at the very least.

The things they did mention are pretty good so now or later is fine and at least we know what and when to expect.



'WAR cont.' by animagnum
Submitted on 2008-07-29 11:38:50 CST
FarSpace has the right idea. WoW did not have 10 million players on day one. SWG is vastly different from what it was like when it launched five years ago (yet it still has many players, despite what any pre-NGE players might tell you). EverQuest has a new expansion announced almost daily. There was a comment in SUWT from somebody who effectively said 'six cities are better than two no matter how you spin it.' It's an easy argument to make if you were to assume that the four axed cities were as developed and as important as the initial two. This kind of uninformed, misdirected rant makes unfounded assumptions while simultaneously believing that the consumer knows better than the developer -- even though the developer has had a much more intimate experience with the game than even a beta tester (e.g. person who more than likely wants to play the game for free and offer little feedback aside from the aforementioned rants). I suppose it is easy to assume that the game designers are sitting in some sort of locked room and coming up with dastardly ways to piss off players or shortchange their experience, but let's be reasonable. The backlash from this event has been ridiculous, to say the least. Anyone, like myself, who is optimistic about how the game will turn out is instantly labeled a fanboy. What purpose does that serve?