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Van Hemlock Episode 39
Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:04:00 GMT [download/play]



This week we're back with a look at the last weeks news and a recap of what we've been playing for the last few weeks. Amazingly Jon has been playing MMOs more than console games, which must be one of the signs of the upcoming zombie apocalypse.

As usual you can leave reviews on iTunes, follow us on twitter as @jonshute and @vanhemlock or read our blogs over at www.vanhemlock.com and www.chimpsinspace.com. Or you can just enjoy the show.

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Episode 39 Discussion Thread

'PUG Groups....' by Sentack
Submitted on 2009-02-18 23:31:39 CST
Excellent podcast gents. Really enjoyable show once again. Keep up the great game!

I did want to complement to John about teaching that PUG group how to play as a proper group. First of all, I'm slightly surprised that they where receptive to your comments but over all, I was more delighted to hear that they took them to heart and eventually became more focused and it turned into a better grouping experience for you in the end! I got to admit, I never thought of actually trying and becoming a mentor like that, I always expect the players will just shrug off my comments or take them the wrong way. Then again, I figure John must have chosen his words very carefully and got the desired effect out of it. Over all, bravo and I must say I'm a tad impressed indeed.

Oh by the way, do you guys know how the whole EvE BoB and Goonsquad incident is playing out? I hear that BoB reformed under a new name and was able to recover all the old lost space in just one day but I haven't heard a thing about it all since. Have the Goonsquad invaded? Was the whole thing a big non-issue or is it still playing out?

Speaking of EvE, I must also say Bravo for CCP on releasing all that detail about the Player Owned Station bug recently. That was very interesting reading. Still doesn't make me want to play EvE but it does get me more and more interested about the game every day.

Well, I can't wait for the next show! Carry on, you two! Carry on.



'That eve dev blog' by Jon
Submitted on 2009-02-19 00:11:23 CST
There's no way any other MMO would be that detailed. CCP should be congratulated, they do seem to care more for their larger scale issues than anybody else nowadays


'CPP and the PoS Bug...' by Sentack
Submitted on 2009-02-19 16:10:45 CST
Now, while I won't argue that CCP cares about it's game and the player community, I don't think they did this just out of there kind heart. I feel that part of the reason they released this information was to show to the public that they take these situations very seriously and care about the state of the game and demonstrated just how much of an effect this bug had on the overall community, which was minimal at best.

In general, I think they did this to please the community, and try to take away some of the feeling by players that the company didn't care about the community and the effect bugs like this have on the player base.

It was a really smart move on there part, all said and done.



'CoH/NCSoft numbers' by Sanjuro
Submitted on 2009-02-19 18:53:21 CST
Long time listener, first time poster ;) - great show you two have here.

First, on the NC numbers and in terms of how the relate to CoH - rather disappointing as Ive always felt that CoH should have had higher/better numbers, but since CoH is getting a bit long in the tooth those numbers arent too bad, well ... at leat they arent as horrid as those Tabula Rasa numbers. I must say that on returning to CoH this week (5th time Ive renewed my subscription), I was happy to see so many folks in-game (Freedom server) ... and there seemed to be far more folks milling about and starting groups than on either of the WAR servers I play on.

Ive always thought NC ought to just reduce the sub. fee for CoH to $8.00 (down from $15.00 in US) because Im fairly certain many folks would then just maintain a CoH sub. as their 'second MMO' that they pop on to have fun. CoH may well die off by the end of this year or start of 2010 with CO and DCUO coming out - one way to avoid that would be for NC to lower the monthy fee. Anyway, I always felt it was a shame that CoH wasnt ever a bigger hit - of course lack of depth in the game, the 'vision' of Mr. Emmert (can we possibly get Richard Garriott and Jack Emmert banned from game development for life?), poor marketing and other reasons all conspired to keep it one of the 200k sub. pre-WoW standard hits.



'Vanhemlock and PlanetSide' by Token
Submitted on 2009-02-19 19:35:07 CST
Most of the collective podcasters won't talk about MMOFPS seriously so I invite you to sign up for www.globalagendagame.com if you haven't already. I'm very excited for it and it has a lot of interesting ideas.

Patches bringing me back to a game, yes it has happened for balance reasons. I have held off re subbing to WoW until I have seen appropriate buffs and nerfs.



'About BoB and Kenzuko' by Zane
Submitted on 2009-02-20 11:54:31 CST
Kenzuko as BoB:s name is today, seems to make a recover. Eventhough it is a slow recover. Goonswarm has now a foothold in Kenzukos region Delve. When Kenzuko:s systems has gotten sovereignty 3 is one possible scenario that they will trough the invaders out or that them self will be forced to share Delve with the invaders in the future.

This is the map which you can use to follow whats happening every day:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/influence.png



'EVE's Delve War II' by Bremen
Submitted on 2009-02-20 17:56:36 CST
I'm a member of Goonswarm (And I gather the post above me is in some way affliliated with KenZoku) so any post I could make would be biased. So I'm not going to try. But I can refer you to a more neutral source.

Interestingly enough, there's a thread following the war, newsreel fashion, on the "City of" forums. They get some of the mechanics wrong but other then that they're doing a good job of following the war, particularly posts by Human_Being, begining at the top of page 17. He appears to be doing a lot of research and posting well formatted war updates twice a day. It's all the more interesting considering he doesn't, apparently, play EVE, but seems to have multiple sources from both sides.



'Opps' by Bremen
Submitted on 2009-02-20 17:57:17 CST
You probably want the link

http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=13027715&page=0&fpart=17&vc=1



'Great Show' by Ceadrick
Submitted on 2009-02-21 06:23:50 CST
Hi guys,
I wait each week for your wonderful show! Don't change anything just keep up the great work.

Bremen that was a good read. I think Eve is cool to read about but not my cup of tea.

Ceadrick



'I Have No Cake So I Must Bake' by Zoso
Submitted on 2009-02-22 15:37:42 CST
Did you know there's a game of I Have No Mouth But I Must Scream? A point and click adventure, I actually had it, possibly picked up randomly on some bric-a-brac stall or something. I managed to remain sane by not getting very far into it at all, probably a good thing, the beginning was quite weird enough, and I recall it was quite tough as an adventure game so I went back to Doom or something instead in pretty short order...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Have_No_Mouth,_and_I_Must_Scream_(computer_game)