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Voyages of Vanguard #37
Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:18:00 GMT [download/play]



This week Luper is back for more! (Thank goodness.)
Make sure to go to http://voyagesofvanguard.blogspot.com/ to read Luper's walk-through. It is under construction, but you'll get the idea!

Some highlights from show 37:

* We'll talk 'bout mods, I have been using some. If you want to try some out, here are the ones I have been trying:

MyUI
Darker UI
Drox UI (the most used from what I can tell)

* We talk about a cool dungeon that Luper likes a bunch! After this, you'll know what players mean when they say "they can flip." And no, it has nothing to do with politics.

* We talk a bit about a listeners email, and will get to the other half of his email next week.

* Then, we ask if Luper is a....a....DOUBLE BOXER!! Du du DUUUUUM. Lot's of people do it, we talk about it.

 We received a good amount of email about the last show, and keep 'em coming! Again, if you have any subjects you'd like us to address, send 'em along! Remember, we can only pick a few to talk about, so convince us! :)

 Beau

 This week's song is "Bone Machine" by the Pixies, one of the best bands in the world. PERIOD.

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Episode 37 Discussion Thread

'This is the Title for my Comment' by AlikSteel
Submitted on 2008-04-11 13:00:56 CST
See? Did you hear that? Luper does do other things. She walked her dog.

Great show you two.



'This is the Title for my Comment' by AlikSteel
Submitted on 2008-04-11 13:02:30 CST
See? Did you hear that? Luper does do other things. She walked her dog.

Great show you two.



'Mothers UI' by Medz
Submitted on 2008-04-11 15:47:33 CST
Mothers UI was my favorite UI when I was playing


'Mothers UI? ' by Luper
Submitted on 2008-04-11 16:22:44 CST
Hey Medz,

Do you have a link for Mothers UI? Or benefits/ disadvantages?

~Luper



'Yeh she says "Newsie NooCRAPolis"' by Beauturkey
Submitted on 2008-04-11 16:30:54 CST
Yes but she walked the dog during a thunderstorm! Call the SPCA!
Yeh, linkage on that mod...I have never heard of that one..I'll try it out too!



'I did not!' by Luper
Submitted on 2008-04-11 16:40:20 CST
Beau!!! I did NOT walk her in the thunderstorm. lol. We got home before it started. hehe

~Luper



'Another good show' by Shalimar616
Submitted on 2008-04-11 18:17:11 CST
Hey!

You two are doing a great job on the show, I am so glad that I could pass on the baton to your two.

As for boxing, I am quite good at two boxing, and have actually tri-boxed but thats truly difficult in anything other than EQ 1 (where you have a camp and you pull to it). The thing with Eros and his 5 slaves is he must have incredible computers to either run virtual machines on 1 mother of a computer, or 6 really good ones?

I tried boxing in the early days of Vanguard, but just found it too sluggish. Question for Luper, do you use that ability (the name escapes me at the moment) of sharing xp with all your alternate boxes? I tried that for a while, but really seemed to be spinning my wheels.

Anyway, good show and keep up the good work

Troy



'Oh you mean the Brotherhood..' by Beauturkey
Submitted on 2008-04-11 19:38:08 CST
I tried it once too, 3 of my alts, and yeh it took SOOO long to level one level. I guess it spreads out the xp too much.




'Yeah.. Brotherhood. Oh, I made a mistake too! ' by Luper
Submitted on 2008-04-11 20:08:03 CST
I have used the brotherhood system in order to help some friends level up and my boyfriend's brother.

Basically, you share the xp with all the characters in your brotherhood, even when other people are logged off. Experience will be slower if only one or two people are helping xp.

If everyone is playing and xping, then everyone will reap the benefits and not feel like they are pulling the others around. The nice thing about brotherhoods is that if you want to log on and play together (at the same time), then everyone will be the same level! Which I think is wonderful. Although, I've had to drop a few brotherhoods because of people who quit playing or didn't play as much.

Also, I pronounced the gentleman's name wrong. It's "Erron" not "Erros".. =/ My mistake. I posted that on my "P.S" in my blog. hehe.. Sorry about that Erron! (And he is a Paladin! Got that right.)

~Luper



'exp bar' by dosi
Submitted on 2008-04-12 13:20:17 CST
You can turn off the exp bar in the drox ui. Game Menu /Setting ( not drox settings) /Interface - under Window Visibility, there s toggle on off for the exp bar. i also utrn off the exp message in the chat box.

I'm hoping that the Dev's/Coders can make the UI alot more customixable for the Mods.there alot of things they want to do but can't due to the limitations of what is avuable. Oh a great idea, maybe you could get a few of the vg ui mods on the show with maybe the Ui dev for VG :)
Mother Ui is on the VGinterface.com site.

Great show and i like how your both very active in the game and on the forums.

Dosi ( dos-eee)



'Great Episode' by Dragonmonk
Submitted on 2008-04-13 04:25:30 CST
Another great episode, i tried to get one of my alts in your newbie helper guild to help people out but i never see any of you on :( also i had to change my mains name now it is Dragonmonk :p

also as this is about all of vanguard any way we can hear more about raiding not specific tactics to kill mob X but general info be great.



'DOH! Your title bar sunk my battleship!' by Beauturkey
Submitted on 2008-04-13 12:01:35 CST
Yeh I now remember using the standard interface and turning off XP bar. I didn't even think that would be used with a custom UI. Thanks!
Maybe we'll come up with a list of things that would be cool to see in the standard UI. I know that it would be really smart if the devs started implementing some of the custom UI ideas into the standard.

Dragonmonk: my main is Rikoo Rakoo, but i have several alts I play. I am on during the day mostly, during the week. Sorry I keep missing ya! I will try to look out for ya. Lately though I have been doing a good deal of reading about lore and stuff offline.
This week I might have jury duty, but hopefully I can get out of it! lol

Beau



'Custom UI complications' by varka
Submitted on 2008-04-13 21:58:54 CST
I remember posting this comment a few episodes ago. It's definitely worth mentioning in this episode:

===========
Sometimes the GMs have to log in as your character to fix an issue, and this causes big problems if you use some custom UIs (like Drox).

On a number of occaisions I've logged back in to my character to find all of the toolbars from Drox devoid on contents, this is very frustrating since a number of those toolbars (like the G15 keyboard toolbar) were full of quite lengthy macros... I'm a bard, a lot of song selection, equipments swapping, and just general utility macros.

I've spoken to some GMs about this before and they are aware of the problem. I wish the dev's would fix this as a really high priority.
===========

I think that when they log out the server saves all your macros and toolbar contents, and because they didn't load when the GM logged in (using the default UI) they are now gone.



'Oh, goodness!' by Luper
Submitted on 2008-04-13 22:42:40 CST
Varka,

That is ridiculous. I didn't know that. I wonder how the Developers could even go about that.

I know with default UI you can /loadui "name" and /saveui "name." Is there a way to do that with your UI system, or not really?

I should probably try a few of the mods so I have a better understanding. I've just never really felt the need to use another UI system then the custom one.

~Luper



'Boo' by varka
Submitted on 2008-04-17 03:00:50 CST
Drox does indeed have those features... but the problems is a very particular one.

It relates to toolbars that the default UI doesn't have, but the custom one does. eg. G15 toolbar, Drox's Healer hotbar, and the very useful 12x12 hotbar (for crafting I like that one).

As a programmer myself I can see why it's a problem... and why it isn't a simple problem.... but I also know it's not impossible to fix.