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Oh My God Real Life Podcast #2
Fri, 3 Aug 2007 07:21:00 GMT [download/play]



In this 2nd episode of OMG-RL, I'm joined by Sarah, my bestest friend in the entire world, who reluctantly agreed to discuss some topics with me.

Topics we discuss:

- My Top 5 Preemptive Frequently Asked Questions.
- Corporate ads in video games, Yay or nay?
- Ok, then how about dynamic ads?
- IBM and Intel to hold business meetings in Second Life. No Furries Allowed
- CBS becomes the first broadcast network to present video game tournament coverage.
- Tattooing made easy, with an N64 rumble pack! Soapdroppings not included.
- Guam Senator plays WoW, and quite well I might add.

Email any questions or concerns to show[at]omg-rl.com, or call the voicemail line at 206-350-7607.

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Episode 2 Discussion Thread

'Not quite on brief' by scytale2
Submitted on 2007-08-05 14:51:59 CST
Since I'm first on, I'll be gentle...

Maybe I missed the point, but I thought the podcast was about real life issues, such as impact of gaming on home life, relationships, addiction, as well as the scientific aspects of violence in games etc. Instead it was on news items.

Billed as an advice show on issues that concern the gaming lifestyle, it was heavy on sniping and light on advice. The show was not politically correct, which is important, if you are going to discuss serious issues. If you are going to expect people to come to you to give advice on personal matters, then you need to offer a certain amount of guarantees that you are not going to make fun of them.

Voice and sound were excellent and Sarah was quite a good foil and not the lapdog we've had on certain other VW podcasts. However, I didn't feel that she had been briefed fully on her role.

The discussion about the senator was a bit lightweight - it contained jokes about how small Guam was in comparison to the USA, land of superheroes, jokes about the name he called his character and whinged about why he did not include his WoW character name in the article (which is, of course, pretty obvious). What IS interesting about the article is that a politician feels able to say he plays games...and maybe that's a step forward...

Overall, some interesting elements, but I think needs to be a bit closer to what you said it would be.



'Baited Breath..part 2' by darrenl
Submitted on 2007-08-05 17:26:58 CST
...let him play his game scytale.

If you don't like the play, there are other sports for you to watch.



'I like the subject, but I don't like all the play' by scytale2
Submitted on 2007-08-05 17:44:43 CST
Thanks for your comment, Darren. I guess my opinion is that he can play his own game if it's his own podcast. Since it's a Collective podcast, with content agreed by Brent, then he should stick to it. News strays into the Shut Up We're Talking Podcast area a bit, which you know a bit about...

Some of his comments were inappropriate imho, so I pointed them out. You certainly won't, so I will:)



'so...' by darrenl
Submitted on 2007-08-05 17:48:52 CST
...ok, then I guess if Brent agrees with the content then you shouldn't have a problem with it. Fair enough...we'll wait for him to chime in here.


'hrmm?' by Wilhelm2451
Submitted on 2007-08-05 18:40:28 CST
Is there an echo in here?


'Yeah' by darrenl
Submitted on 2007-08-05 18:47:54 CST
Note to all...do not hit refresh when making a comment.

Wilhelm, you be nice lest you find yourself sounding like Alvin the chipmunk in #6 :)



'two things' by Brent
Submitted on 2007-08-05 19:30:14 CST
first: embarrassing truth: I haven't listened to Shawn's second podcast yet because I've been at Fan Faire and haven't had any podcast listening time, however, seeing as I have considerable trust for Shawn and his instincts, I'm not too worried.

second: the repeat postings. I'll fix that so it won't be possible. annoying isn't it?



'This episode was not what was expected.' by Sinaea
Submitted on 2007-08-05 23:55:23 CST
I agree completely with scytale2. His assessment of Episode 2 seems right on the mark. I was looking forward to a show about gamers' real-life issues. Instead, it was mostly poking fun at news articles--and worse, at one of your listeners, who told you a story which was obviously important to him.

I can't believe how you insulted Tom and Cassie like that. They were very responsible teens who brought their fathers along with them for a safe meeting in a public place. Smart kids.

I was considering submitting a real-life question to your show anonymously, but I certainly will not be doing so now. Why should I write in if all you're going to do is insult the listener? No, thank you.



'Common sense before coolness please!' by Floss
Submitted on 2007-08-06 05:56:14 CST
Not standing up for the, frankly crass, remarks about the kids taking their fathers with them to the meeting. Wisdom way beyond their years imo!

I do, however, note that there seemed to be some back-peddling when the same scenario was applied to his own kid(s).

Otherwise, a pretty good cast, if not quite what I was expecting.



'Yes' by Shawn
Submitted on 2007-08-06 13:51:16 CST
Much of this is nonsense because it was either explained beforehand (such as there being current events i.e. news in the show) or is just way off base.

When exactly did I insult the kids in the email? I said I agree with the fact that their fathers came along because they needed to. I said when you're 15-16 you think you're in love, but its different when you're old like me and realize that it might not have been love. I also said that people meet at 15-16 and get married and live happily ever after.

Selective hearing ftl.

If you want serious gaming news, there are 38763867532 other podcasts for this. If you want a couple of idiots entertaining themselves with stupidness, then this might be for you. If not, then its not. The end.



'Does anyone want this?' by scytale2
Submitted on 2007-08-06 18:24:42 CST
"If you want a couple of idiots entertaining themselves with stupidness, then this might be for you."

Tbh, that's doing down your own show by large amount. But seriously, your concept is good and this could be a very significant podcast. It just needs to be more focused.

The teens issue was very unclear. You seemed to major on why these teens brought their fathers with them initially and then change your mind. I don't know why you said this, but it came across as making fun of them, whether intended or not.

As far as serious MMO gaming news podcasts, there is actually only 1. As far as serious gaming "life issues" there is only 1 - this one. Comments like "If not, then its not. The end." aren't very helpful, because clearly you need to make changes to the show, as I'm sure you did with your main show.



'Tongue in cheek' by Dathmar
Submitted on 2007-08-06 19:06:43 CST
Personally I thought the show was going to be slightly tongue in cheek from the start.
...Just look at the picture of the baby orangutan of the podcast "cover" - to me this would be the first clue
I must say that I thought the show was funny and break from the norm and enjoyed it.
I loved the "welcome to 1995" comment - sounds like a thing I say to some of my family.
I also didn't think that Shawn made fun of the 2 teenagers - in fact gave some very good advice... - i.e. its very rare to find true love at such a tender age....but it can happen sometimes.
I honestly think that the show is fine as is...obviously Shawn may tweek it here and there... if he feels it needs tweeking.
For me I liked it as is.

Thanks Shawn.



'Not that bad' by Brad
Submitted on 2007-08-15 10:32:44 CST
I didn't think Shawn's comments were that bad about the teenagers, as I thought his comments were more based on his own experiences than trying to poke fun of them. As far as giving advice to others and the show format, if folks don't send in questions (even silly questions), Shawn just has to come up with material to cover/comment on.

Shawn's comment about "If not, then its not" just means if you don't like it, you don't have to listen. I don't think he is covering any news Brent would, but rather some of the off-the-wall news that wouldn't make it onto the VW podcast. Kinda like a "news of the wierd" for MMO's.



'Good podcast' by hughnme
Submitted on 2007-08-20 01:28:59 CST
I liked the podcast,lighten up people, to hell with political correctness ,and if you don’t like it, bye bye


'Brad/Hugh' by scytale2
Submitted on 2007-08-20 04:55:06 CST
Firstly, the comment on "if you don't like it, you don't have to listen" is something that is always voiced following criticism. I like Shawn's concept, but to date his execution needs improvement. If he doesn't change (or doesn't make another podcast) then for sure I won't be listening much longer. I think I listened to about 10 minutes of MOGArmy's cast.

Regarding political correctness, it appears that few people actually realise why this has come into being. Perhaps when someone shoots someone or jumps off a cliff, as a result of an insensitive quip on a podcast - I'm not suggesting Shawn has done this btw - then you may realise its value. Hence why I suggested he really needs needs a professional involved, or at least takes the time to train himself up.

If he is indeed going to be covering "off the wall" news, then that is fine and is an interesting idea for another podcast, perhaps one that does not overlap with Darren's. A "National Enquirer" type podcast might be worth exploring, but perhaps harder to research. It ain't what Shawn states he is going to do, though.



'the fuss' by Brent
Submitted on 2007-08-20 22:48:47 CST
I didn't see what all the fuss was about. I didn't find anything particularly offensive or problematic in this show.

On the story of the two kids who held a meeting I though there were some promising but unexplored avenues the conversation and commentary should/could have journeyed, but all in all I though the show was what it was intended to be.

Maybe I'm biased. Who knows.



'Unexplored Avenues' by Sinaea
Submitted on 2007-08-20 23:14:05 CST
I agree, Brent, that that particular topic had many unexplored avenues. A lot could have been discussed about relationships that begin by meeting someone online. The social interactions, the different forms of communication, getting past the in-game avatars and knowing what the other person is really like, etc., are all wonderful topics that can be discussed and debated at length.

I read these kids' story on GuildCast (sans details). After the episode released, I had more than one person, even a guildie of mine, approach me and mention that that was exactly how they had met their partner. This is obviously an interesting subject that could have been discussed from many different angles. Seems like a perfect topic for a show about gamers' real life issues.

However, making fun of the kids because "you might not think it now, but when you're that age, it's not real love" or the fact that they responsibly brought their parents with them during their meeting is not what I would consider good discussion fodder.

I just thought that there would be more discussion of real-life issues that gamers have. I think the concept of the show is excellent if that is what it's going to be.



'the fuss' by Brad
Submitted on 2007-08-20 23:30:22 CST
If you really don't like the show, then why are you bothering to even continue to belittle it ? Seems to me there is something more going on behind the scenes, and someone has a bone to pick with Shawn. Since Brent has already stated twice here that not only does he trust Shawn's judgement, but that the show was what he expected and he didn't have a problem with it, why is this even continuing ? Especially with only two shows completed. If you have some beef with Shawn, or his show, why not just take it up with him directly, instead of bashing the same meaningless point over and over. No wonder he didn't put forums up for this show, when the only posts are the same people continuing to argue the same pointless point over and over.

Why not put your energy into your own podcast and cover what material you deem to be worthy to get out to the public ?



'Um' by Sinaea
Submitted on 2007-08-21 05:00:04 CST
If you're trying to say I have a bone to pick with Shawn, well, nothing I say is gonna make you think that's not true.

I'll just re-iterate that I think the concept of this show is excellent and would like to see it blossom. I have no intention of doing a show like it. Shawn's idea is unique, and as far as I know, no one yet produces a show that fits the description of this one. It has the potential to be a perfect niche show.



'Well said Sinaea' by scytale2
Submitted on 2007-08-21 05:29:15 CST
There's a principle at stake here.

Those of us who are prepared to make constructive points about the podcasts are starting to become the object of the wrath of site visitors, who should know better....

Comments like...

"Go and make your own podcast if you think you're so great...." and

"If you don't like it, don't listen to it..."

are the kind of tired comments you might expect in the Stone Age.

If you want to rally round your fave podcasters, just like loads of people rallied around fave Guid Wars" in the previous SUYT podcast, that's fine, but you have to see it for what it is.

As far as having a bone to pick with Shawn, I'd never heard of him until he did this podcast, which I have to say was well done, barring the two areas:
a) It was off the topic he said it would be
b) He showed his inexperience of counselling, but did no worse than 95% of the population would.

As far as regurgitating the same points again and again - I'm guilty, but this is because people are misconstruing them and I am trying to elaborate, which I thought would be welcome, but clearly not with some...



'My my aren't we feisty' by Akely
Submitted on 2007-08-21 05:58:11 CST
I sort of took for granted that Shawn was doing this whole thing as a semi-joke. IMO, when someone says "I'm not qualified AT ALL, but I'm going to tell you what you need to hear" he is either saying it tongue in cheek or he suffers from delusions of grandeur. I opted to think the first.

After listening to the show I debated with myself whether I should post about those parent following along. As a parent I would tag along. As a child I would hate dad tagging along. It is a matter of perspective and there is no right answer.

I will continue regarding this show as semi-serious. I will even mail Shawn with some of my Real Life Problems. Not to have him solve them, but to give him material to have fun with. I think I can stand being made a fool of. As a matter of fact, I'm sure of it.

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